Interior colors
 
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Interior colors
Interior colors... again!
Nakajima Interior Color Mix
Interior Color of the Zero? Wing Fold Detail?
 
Interior Colors
 
Posted By: Jeff McGuire <jmcguire@cyberlodge.com>
Date: Monday, 18 January 1999, at 7:18 p.m.
 
I just rec'd my squadron order and they were out of Mitsubishi int. green. Can anyone tell me how to mix it? I don't know that I've seen a good color pic of this color. Also, would this color apply to Zeroes?
 
Re: Still struggling with interior colors
 
Posted By: François P. WEILL <frpawe@wanadoo.fr>
Date: Monday, 18 January 1999, at 7:25 p.m.
 
In Response To: still struggling with interior colors (Jeff McGuire)
 
Hi Jeff,
 
So far from the posts and what has been told in books we can reasonably think that Mitsubishi's interior green was in the same hue as USN interior green but slightly darker and grayer(from those of us who saw the relics.
Yes it applies to Mitsubishi built Zeros, but not so for the Nakajima built ones, which used the Nakajima interior green, which has been described as much lighter and yellower.
Hope it helps.
 
FPW
 
Re: still struggling with interior colors
 
Posted By: Tony <leslie.calhoun@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Monday, 18 January 1999, at 9:29 p.m.
 
In Response To: still struggling with interior colors (Jeff McGuire)
 
HI Jeff, I agree with Francois .I use model master interior green with about 10%gloss white added. Hope this helps.
 
Re: Still struggling with interior colors
 
Posted By: Dave Pluth <info@j-aircraft.com>
Date: Monday, 18 January 1999, at 9:33 p.m.
 
In Response To: still struggling with interior colors (Jeff McGuire)
 
Jeff,
 
I'm with the other guys. I use Interior green with white added (probably 20-25%).
 
-Dave
 
Re: Still struggling with interior colors
 
Posted By: Pete Chalmers <pchalmer@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Friday, 22 January 1999, at 6:01 a.m.
 
In Response To: still struggling with interior colors (Jeff McGuire)
 
FYI, Polly Scale 505266 "British Dark Slate Grey" (or Floquil Enamel 303159 - same name) are EXACTLY identical to the Aeromaster "Mitsubishi" interior green.
Floquil FS is 34096 ~
The Aeromaster "Nakajima" interior color is not exactly matched, but the following colors are very close:
Polly Scale 505310 "RLM 68 Light Olive". 505368 "Warpac Gray-Green"(or Floquil 303369 - same name). Floquil Marine 818606 "Ocean Green 5-OG. These all vary slightly one from the other, and have Floquil FS 34258 ~
This is based on my own and Floquil-supplied color chips, and are supplied as a shortcut alternative to mixing.
 
Interior colors... again!
 
Posted By: John Korellis
Date: Saturday, 1 July 2000, at 3:03 a.m.
 
Hi folks!
After reading most info regarding interior cockpit colors on this site would it be right to assume that Nakajima interior is close to RAF interior green (grayish green) while Mitsubishi interior is close to US interior green (yellowish green)?
By the way, I'm currently building Hasegawa's 1/48 Nakajima Rufe and used Gunze's H50 which is a lime green mixed with some gray to achieve a lighter RAF int. green. Is this acceptable?
Happy modeling!

John K.
 
Re: Interior colors... again!
 
Posted By: Grant Goodale <grant.goodale@sympatico.ca>
Date: Friday, 28 July 2000, at 4:24 p.m.
 
In Response To: Interior colors... again! (John Korellis)
 
Looking over my references, Monogram Close-up 15 (Japanese Cockpit Interiors Part 2), states that the interior colours are FS 34151 for various manufacturers aircraft although nothing for Nakajima. The colour photos of the Myrt shows something that looks like 34151 but IMHO the colour fidelity in books is usually questionable.
I am currently building a G4M Betty and I did some comparisons of 34151 from Testors and the Aeromaster Mitsubishi Interior Green. The 34151 was lighter and more towards the lime green shade. The Aeromaster was darker and much more of a brown shade.
Considering the wartime conditions and available supplies at the factories (both aircraft and paint) and the maintenance conditions in the combat zone, I would hazard an opinion that one should not be too hung up on the exact shade but, each to their own taste.
 
Nakajima Interior Color Mix
 
Posted By: Dave Pluth <dave@j-aircraft.com>
Date: Monday, 26 February 2001, at 5:14 p.m.
 
Hi all,
Well, it finally happened last night. I ran out of Aeromaster Nakajima interior color, at least enough of it that wasn't a lump that there would be no way for me to spray.
Well, here's the solution!
Get yourself a bottle of Pollyscale Concrete (from the railroad line) and a bottle of Pollyscale US interior green. It's not an exact mix, but if you mix 10-15% or so green until you start getting a bit heavier green tint to the concrete color, you're there!
Basically what I did was to take what I had left of the AM bottle and painted a swatch of plastic with it and then matched the color with the mix.
Good luck and good mixing!
-Dave
 
Interior Color of the Zero? Wing Fold Detail?
 
Posted By: D.Ryan
Date: Friday, 2 March 2001, at 3:11 p.m.
 
Hi Fellas:
I am new to Japanese WWII aircraft modeling. So forgive me if this question seems simple to most of you. I am doing one of Hasegawa's newer 1/72 Zero's (A6M3 Type 22). What is the correct (or close to correct) color for the cockpit? I thought it was metallic blue...so I picked up a bottle of Gunze (my paint of choice) and when I got home and looked at the plans they call for a green. What is a good match (in the Gunze line if possible). Also, did the A6M2b and A6M3 type 22 have folding wing tips? If so, where can I get a good picture of the wing fold so that I know where to cut to fold them? Thanks all, your help is greatly appreciated!
Sincerely,
Don
 
Posted By: François P. WEILL <frpawe@wanadoo.fr>
Date: Saturday, 3 March 2001, at 12:32 a.m.
 
Dear Don,
I think the question of interior colors should be included in the board FAQ.
As far as the Zeros are concerned FORGET ONCE AND FOR ALL THE METALLIC PAINT AS A COCKPIT COLOR. The general color used depends on the actual manufacturer of the plane. Setting aside the two seat trainers built by Air Arsenals, the Zero was built by two manufacturers in the following pattern: Mitsubishi made at least partly all Models: and Nakajima made Model 21's and Model 52 and later operational variants in conjunction with Mitsubishi.
Mitsubishi made planes used the Mitsubishi naval aircraft interior color in the cockpit area which was a darker variant of USN Interior Green (FS 34151). Nakajima made Zeros used a much lighter yellow green color in the same place. Notice however that each manufacturer used the cowl "antiglare" color under the windscreen and the fuselage under the canopy. This paint was glossy blue black on Mitsubishi made Zeros and glossy gray black for Nakajima ones.
As you are building a Model 22 which like Model 32 and 22 Ko was only Mitsubishi built, you have to use the Mitsubishi interior green in the cockpit area. Model 22 and 22 Ko's had folding wing tips. Basically the Model 22 and 22 Ko wing was a modified Model 21 wing with a new gasoline tank arrangement and ailerons with a complicated moving tab mechanism linked to the flaps which was inhibited when the flaps were down 30 and more to avoid overcontrol at low speed. If I were you, I wouldn't bother to cut the wingtips to fold them on a Model 22. Most of them were used from land bases and scarcely used that device.
For all Zero structural details I recommend buying the Aero Detail # 7 book. though the color information in this book are to be considered not up to date with the current research.
 
Hope it helps.
François
 
Posted By: Scott Hazel <hazelnuts@home.com>
Date: Saturday, 3 March 2001, at 12:24 a.m.
 
I was a volunteer at the San Diego Aerospace Museum at the time that the A6M-7 was restored. The aircraft had been exposed to the elements and in particularly sun light for some time. The cockpit interior looked to be the metallic blue-green that many older references speak of. Several of the attached components were removed to reveal unexposed painted surfaces. The color was not the same. The areas that had no exposure were all FS34096. The metallic blue-green was this same color only faded from the sun. I think that Testors makes FS34096.
 
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