Antennas
- Posted By: Jeff McGuire <jmcguire@cyberlodge.com>
- Date: Saturday, 23 October 1999, at
4:41 p.m.
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- Hello all,
- How do you guys make those antenna
on aircraft that require more than just wire from the tail to the post? I'm
talking about the one with an extra wire that is attached to the main one
and usually goes down from it at an angle to somewhere else, usually behind
the cockpit or bottom of the post . The J2M Jack is an example of this. I
got it right after several tries but am looking for an easier way to join
the two wires.
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- Posted By: Rob Graham
<rgraham111@aol.com>
- Date: Saturday, 23 October 1999, at
6:45 p.m.
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- In Response To: How do you guys make
those "perfect" antennas (Jeff McGuire)
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- Jeff:
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- This is something that I use sprue
(from dark gray plastic from ship kits) for. I stretch the sprue to go
longer than I need, then I cut it so there is a LITTLE bit of taper on the
end from the piece of the runner. BTW, try to pick a more toy-like model
tree that has softer plastic (The Tauro Folgore would do nicely), as it
seems to help with the durability.
- Attach the tapered end to the rudder
with a little bit of liquid cement (applied by brush only to the sprue). Let
it set at the correct angle.
- Use a little liquid cement to attach
it to the tip of the antenna by holding the sprue to the tip, then touching
the antenna "wire" and mast with the brush. When it sets, use the
liquid cement that is still on the tip of the mast to soften the
"wire" and curl the sprue around and down. Allow it all to set
overnight.
- When it's all cured, curve the drop
piece a little, as necessary, and attach and trim (or trim and attach) as
necessary.
- I did this on a Bf-109 but the drop
section was in the middle of the "wire", so I ran the long part,
and then put the "drop" onto the fuselage, running up. When it was
all cured, I touched the two together with A SMALL AMOUNT of liquid cement
(I understandably had to do it a few times to realize a VERY small amount)
of liquid cement. When it was all on there, the next day, I lightly hit the
works with a blow dryer to snug it up a little. A heat gun would have
snugged too much, I think. It looked great, and any time it popped loose, I
just re-attached it with a touch of liquid cement.
- I'm sure there are better ways to do
it. I'd bet that if you had a light bulb filament, you could slide a small
piece of that over the sprue and put it at the ends after it has cured to
give it the look of the attachment twists.
- Has anyone else tried this? Better
ideas? Please share!
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- --Rob
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- Posted By: joseph imbang <imbang@skynet.net.ph>
- Date: Monday, 25 October 1999, at
6:28 p.m.
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- In Response To: How do you guys make
those "perfect" antennas (Jeff McGuire)
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- Try to use human hair. Look for hair
which you think has the precise diameter for your IFF they are not great as
IFF but also will last more than every modeler could live in this world.
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- Posted By: Brent Theobald <btheobald@enersyt.com>
- Date: Wednesday, 27 October 1999, at
3:24 p.m.
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- In Response To: Re: How do you guys
make those "perfect" antennas (Rob Graham)
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- I found some .005-inch diameter
stainless steel wire that I like to use in 1/72. For 1/48 I use .008. Cut to
length and glue. I like to use white glue first, and then attach the second
point with CA. I have fully rigged WWI aircraft this way and it looks good
and will never sag.
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- Brent
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- Posted By: Ryan Boerema
<ryann1k2j@aol.com>
- Date: Saturday, 30 October 1999, at
5:54 p.m.
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- In Response To: Re: How do you guys
make those "perfect" antennas (Brent Theobald)
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- Well, it's a bit toxic, but I use
CLEAR canopy sprues and, wearing a particle mask, usually outside, set it on
fire with a match. Let it burn for a second or two, blow it out, quick jam
it onto whatever is handy then stretch it out about 8" to a foot.
Depending on how soon one starts stretching you can get remarkably thin and
light wires.
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- Posted
By: Pete
Chalmers <pchalmers@carolina.rr.com>
Date: Monday, 4 December 2000,
at 8:23 a.m.
-
- In Response To: Antenna wiring tips?
(Dave Pluth)
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- Dave:
- One
trick with "smoke" colored invisible [ nylon monofilament ] thread
( Dritz and Signature are 2 brands from my local sewing store ) is to cut a
length of 3 feet or so
- (with
250 yards on a spool you can do this A LOT !) and tie a loop in each end.
- Loop
one end thru the handle of a pair of sewing scissors or something of similar
weight and hang the thread from the other end so it stretches overnight -
this will make the thread perfectly straight. Nylon "remembers"
its pre-stretched state, so will tend to tighten, not slacken.
- Cut
appropriate lengths and use superglue to attach fairly tightly. I pre-drill
.010 attachment holes in 1:48 vertical stabs and antennas.
- You can
make insulators from drops of white glue or 5-minute epoxy. You can also
make them from the insulation from white Radio Shack Kinar wire wrap copper
wire, or make the tensioners found on some aircraft by spinning some very
fine copper armature wire around a .005 stainless steel wire bit held in a
pin vise to make a tiny spring ( also useful to make US 02 hoses ).
- After
your rigging or antenna wire is done, you can safely tighten it in an
instant if necessary with a hair dryer set to the lowest setting.
- For
examples, see my models of the Yak-1b and F3F-2 on the backs of the Accurate
Miniatures boxes or pictures on their website.
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- Posted
By: Pete
Chalmers
<pchalmers@carolina.rr.com>
Date: Monday, 4 December 2000, at
9:10 a.m.
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- In Response To: Re: Antenna wiring
tips? (Pete Chalmers)
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- That
should be "Kynar" wire, see Radio Shacks web page
-
- Radio
Shack Kynar Wire
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- Posted
By: Bill
Turner <wturner@rclco.com>
Date: Monday, 4 December 2000, at
12:24 a.m.
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- In Response To: Antenna wiring tips?
(Dave Pluth)
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- Dave
and Dan,
- I also
like invisible thread. It looks to scale for 1/48, and it's strong. The
smoke shade of invisible thread I think is a good match for antenna wire
color, although you can paint it. Any sagging you might get is easily fixed
by running a hot matchstick below the thread. I had some slight sagging
during initial set-up, and it has not sagged since this remedy.
- Bill
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- Posted
By: Dan
Salamone
<heroncreek@qwest.net>
Date: Sunday, 3 December 2000, at
9:32 p.m.
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- In Response To: Antenna wiring tips?
(Dave Pluth)
-
- Hi
Dave,
- I like
to use "invisible thread". It comes in clear and a smoke color and
is available at sewing and or quilting shops.
- It's
thin, pretty easy to handle and for me at least has not sagged over time. I
like to drill a tiny hole in antenna posts and using CA glue an end in.
Patience is key here as letting it dry properly allows you to put tension on
it when you attach it to the other post or attachment. A tweezers and
another dab of CA are enough- followed by a small amount of CA accelerator.
- You can
add insulators out of white glue or CA, and of course it can be painted
whatever color your antenna needs to be.
- A nice
part is that the excess can be trimmed with a small pair of scissors or a
hobby knife.
- Another
material that would probably work well is flyfishing tippet material.
Available on small spools, this material comes in various sizes (1X being
thick, 7X very thin) and can also be painted and glued with CA.
- Hope
this helps....:-)
- Dan
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